SSJ2 Vegeta EOZ vs SSJ Gotenks post

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SSJ2 Vegeta EOZ vs SSJ Gotenks post
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SuperSaiyan1993	Apr 22 2012, 01:50 PM Post #1
Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans Posts: 3,294 Group: Member Member #7,044 Joined: December 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Avatar	winner?
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~~Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs~~	Apr 22 2012, 02:05 PM Post #2
Posts: 2,687 Group: GTFO Member #6,954 Joined: November 6, 2011	note: If I don't put EOZ at the end, that means Boo Saga for that character SSjin 2 Majin Vegeta ~ SSjin 2 Goku << Base Vegeta EOZ ~ Base Goku EOZ < SSjin 3 Goku < SSjin Gotenks pre < SSjin Vegeta EOZ ~ SSjin Goku EOZ < Base Gotenks post < SSjin Gotenks post < SSjin 2 Vegeta EOZ ~ SSjin 2 Goku EOZ That's about where I have them



CRYPTIC	Apr 22 2012, 04:55 PM Post #3
Posts: 340 Group: Member Member #7,353 Joined: February 24, 2012	Flying Nimbus Apr 22 2012, 02:05 PM note: If I don't put EOZ at the end, that means Boo Saga for that character SSjin 2 Majin Vegeta ~ SSjin 2 Goku << Base Vegeta EOZ ~ Base Goku EOZ < SSjin 3 Goku < SSjin Gotenks pre < SSjin Vegeta EOZ ~ SSjin Goku EOZ < Base Gotenks post < SSjin Gotenks post < SSjin 2 Vegeta EOZ ~ SSjin 2 Goku EOZ That's about where I have them Do you have the multipliers in fusion form smaller? Cuz your power chain implies this: Eoz Base Goku-1 Eoz Base Vegeta-1 SSJ Goku-50 SSJ Vegeta-50 Base Gotenks-50+ SSJ Gotenks-Less Than 100 SSJ2 Goku-100 SSJ2 Vegeta-100 Shouldn't SSJ Gotenks be at like 2500 or does the fusion alter the ssj multiplier? Anyways How I see it: Base Vegeta~Base Goku~SSJ3 Goku Buu arc~Base Gotenks Post Therefore Vegetas pl would be at 100 in ssj2 form and SSJ Gotenks would be at 50. So I have SSJ2 Vegeta twice as strong as SSJ Gotenks post and SSJ Vegeta being equal to SSJ Gotenks post.



~~Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs~~	Apr 22 2012, 05:59 PM Post #4
Posts: 2,687 Group: GTFO Member #6,954 Joined: November 6, 2011	CRYPTIC Apr 22 2012, 04:55 PM Flying Nimbus Apr 22 2012, 02:05 PM note: If I don't put EOZ at the end, that means Boo Saga for that character SSjin 2 Majin Vegeta ~ SSjin 2 Goku << Base Vegeta EOZ ~ Base Goku EOZ < SSjin 3 Goku < SSjin Gotenks pre < SSjin Vegeta EOZ ~ SSjin Goku EOZ < Base Gotenks post < SSjin Gotenks post < SSjin 2 Vegeta EOZ ~ SSjin 2 Goku EOZ That's about where I have them Do you have the multipliers in fusion form smaller? Cuz your power chain implies this: Eoz Base Goku-1 Eoz Base Vegeta-1 SSJ Goku-50 SSJ Vegeta-50 Base Gotenks-50+ SSJ Gotenks-Less Than 100 SSJ2 Goku-100 SSJ2 Vegeta-100 Shouldn't SSJ Gotenks be at like 2500 or does the fusion alter the ssj multiplier? Anyways How I see it: Base Vegeta~Base Goku~SSJ3 Goku Buu arc~Base Gotenks Post Therefore Vegetas pl would be at 100 in ssj2 form and SSJ Gotenks would be at 50. So I have SSJ2 Vegeta twice as strong as SSJ Gotenks post and SSJ Vegeta being equal to SSJ Gotenks post. Akira Toriyama intended the SSjin multiplier to be 10x base. His editor pointed out that Goku had already used Kaioken x 20, so Toriyama, realizing this, just decided to agree on a 50x multiplier. To keep some consistency and stay true to Toriyama's intentions, a lot of us use 50x SSjin multiplier for the first time you go SSjin, and after this, your base becomes 5x stronger and the multiplier drops to 10. That's what I use. My numbers would probably be something like Base Vegeta Boo Saga: 1 Base Goku Boo Saga: 1 SSjin 2 Majin Vegeta Boo Saga: 100 (using 100x multiplier for SSjin 2) SSjin 2 Goku Boo Saga: 100 Mr Boo: 160 Enraged Oobu EOZ: 270 Base Goku EOZ: 275 Base Vegeta EOZ: 275 SSjin 3 Goku Boo Saga: 400 Fat Boo: 330 Base Gotenks pre: 45 SSjin Gotenks pre: 450 Base Gotenks post: 920 SSjin Gotenks post: 9 200 SSjin 2 Vegeta EOZ: 27 500 (100x multiplier) SSjin 2 Goku EOZ: 27 500 My thoughts in a nutshell. Edited by Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs, Apr 22 2012, 05:59 PM.



~~no name~~	Apr 22 2012, 06:32 PM Post #5
Posts: 1,343 Group: GTFO Member #7,314 Joined: February 12, 2012	Based clearly on my calculations,i have EOZ SSJ2 Vegeta at Super Buu's level



Ryuuzaki	Apr 22 2012, 07:41 PM Post #6
Posts: 1,514 Group: Member Member #7,430 Joined: March 11, 2012 Favourite Anime Death Note and Dragon Ball Z Favourite Manga Death Note and Dragon Ball Z	End of Z SSJ2 Vegeta is strong than Gotenks SSJ Post , him is strong in Base than DSSJ2 Vegeta so x100 multiply Vegeta win.



MysticGotenks	Apr 22 2012, 07:51 PM Post #7
Posts: 761 Group: Member Member #7,087 Joined: December 17, 2011	See I have to disagree. I think Gotenks would win. I don't have Vegeta making up the gap in 10 years. He, and Son Goku for that matter, barely progressed significantly in the 7 years from Cell to Boo. Son Goku gained two new forms, but his base barely doubled, poor progress in comparison to Android/Cell games progression. I don't think Vegeta could make up the gap from being <<<<<< SSjin Gotenks, even EoZ and in SSjin2. Edited by MysticGotenks, Apr 22 2012, 07:52 PM.
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~~Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs~~	Apr 22 2012, 09:40 PM Post #8
Posts: 2,687 Group: GTFO Member #6,954 Joined: November 6, 2011	MysticGotenks Apr 22 2012, 07:51 PM See I have to disagree. I think Gotenks would win. I don't have Vegeta making up the gap in 10 years. He, and Son Goku for that matter, barely progressed significantly in the 7 years from Cell to Boo. Son Goku gained two new forms, but his base barely doubled, poor progress in comparison to Android/Cell games progression. I don't think Vegeta could make up the gap from being <<<<<< SSjin Gotenks, even EoZ and in SSjin2. 1 - Mr Boo had a power far surpassing any Boo Saga SSjin 2 (because he did far better against Pure Boo than SSjin 2 Vegeta did) 2 - Enraged Oobu far surpassed Mr Boo's power 3 - Goku could keep up with Enraged Oobu Therefore, EOZ Base Goku, at the very minimum, is stronger than his SSjin 2 self in Boo Saga. He didn't just double his base; he made it >100x stronger.



~~no name~~	Apr 23 2012, 02:04 PM Post #9
Posts: 1,343 Group: GTFO Member #7,314 Joined: February 12, 2012	I finally have SSJ2 EOZ Vegeta below Super Buu,but still much stronger than Base Gotenks post



MysticGotenks	Apr 23 2012, 03:32 PM Post #10
Posts: 761 Group: Member Member #7,087 Joined: December 17, 2011	Flying Nimbus Apr 22 2012, 09:40 PM MysticGotenks Apr 22 2012, 07:51 PM See I have to disagree. I think Gotenks would win. I don't have Vegeta making up the gap in 10 years. He, and Son Goku for that matter, barely progressed significantly in the 7 years from Cell to Boo. Son Goku gained two new forms, but his base barely doubled, poor progress in comparison to Android/Cell games progression. I don't think Vegeta could make up the gap from being <<<<<< SSjin Gotenks, even EoZ and in SSjin2. 1 - Mr Boo had a power far surpassing any Boo Saga SSjin 2 (because he did far better against Pure Boo than SSjin 2 Vegeta did) 2 - Enraged Oobu far surpassed Mr Boo's power 3 - Goku could keep up with Enraged Oobu Therefore, EOZ Base Goku, at the very minimum, is stronger than his SSjin 2 self in Boo Saga. He didn't just double his base; he made it >100x stronger. See I knew that, but only saw the Vegeta making up the gap scenario. I guess this time I made a wild assumption without actually analyzing some sources XD My bad.
	Hey Piccolo......are..are you a Yoshi?


+ supersaqer	Apr 23 2012, 03:34 PM Post #11
Transcendent Posts: 5,117 Group: Elite Member Member #5,137 Joined: August 13, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Base Gotenks (Pre-RoSaT) << Pure Boo ~ Enraged Oob < Base Vegeta ~ Base Goku ~ SSjin 3 Goku (Boo Saga) < SSjin Gotenks (Pre-RoSaT) << SSjin Vegeta ~ SSjin Goku ~ Base Gotenks (Post-RoSaT) << SSjin Gotenks (Post-RoSaT) << SSjin 2 Vegeta ~ SSjin 2 Goku. ____ SSjin 2 Vegeta wins. Edited by supersaqer, Apr 24 2012, 11:30 AM.
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+ Pyrus	Apr 23 2012, 06:06 PM Post #12
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Yeah, I have Vegeta stomping a mudhole in Base Gotenks, but if Gotenks was allowed to transform he'd win. Edited by Pyrus, Apr 23 2012, 06:07 PM.
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+ Clearin	Apr 23 2012, 06:17 PM Post #13
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	We don't know if Vegeta got the same hax that Goku did at the end of the series. I personally don't think he is equal to Goku, he said it himself, Goku is smarter at training.



+ Pyrus	Apr 23 2012, 06:27 PM Post #14
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Teen GohanZ Apr 23 2012, 06:17 PM We don't know if Vegeta got the same hax that Goku did at the end of the series. I personally don't think he is equal to Goku, he said it himself, Goku is smarter at training. He still thought he'd beat Goku at the end, though!
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+ Clearin	Apr 23 2012, 06:31 PM Post #15
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	ObsessiveFanGuy Apr 23 2012, 06:27 PM Teen GohanZ Apr 23 2012, 06:17 PM We don't know if Vegeta got the same hax that Goku did at the end of the series. I personally don't think he is equal to Goku, he said it himself, Goku is smarter at training. He still thought he'd beat Goku at the end, though! Liez, he never said such a thing. The closest we get is in the Kanzenban ending (Not even sure if that counts as canon?) where he says: Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P17.1 [Kanzenban] Context: after Goku flies off with Oob Vegeta: “I’ll definitely win soon. You’ll see, Kakarot… ”



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